Thursday 5 January 2017

Wisdom (jinn) group in kerala & thier Manhaj !

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم 

For those who Dont know what is WISDOM in kerala, This is a group of so-called salafis who split up from the KNM (old salafi islahi group) & formed a new groupless group around 2012 & became active in recent years. 

Why the split  ?

Allahu a'lam !
But what is apparent is they arent satisified with KNM 's stance on the hadeeth (( yaa 'ibaad Allah...)). and other such issues realted to Ruqya, Jinn & shyateen !

How the split ?

These people of wisdom (called as Jinnurees in kerala) want to say that eventhough the hadeeth (( above mentioned)) is not saheeh, still seaking help / assistance from Jinn (within range/network coverage) for dunya matters (like showing u the way / giving u torch light, rescuing from drowning ship/boat, etc.) is NOT SHIRK. rather its only WASEELA (a way) to SHIRK & so they SPLIT FROM KNM !!

Whats their proof for this strange stance ? 

Imam Ahmad did so once while going for Hajj !!
Ibn Taymiya has classified the types of seeking assistance from Jinn. (in that which is shirk & that which is haram & mubah etc. ) !!!
Uthymin also has explained in kitabut tawheed sharh similarly !

Some leaders of wisdom group went on to cling to evidences for this strange stance even from qur'an (surat an'aam )
وَيَوْمَ يَحْشُرُهُمْ جَمِيعًا يَا مَعْشَرَ الْجِنِّ قَدِ اسْتَكْثَرْتُمْ مِنَ الْإِنْسِ وَقَالَ أَوْلِيَاؤُهُمْ مِنَ الْإِنْسِ رَبَّنَا اسْتَمْتَعَ بَعْضُنَا بِبَعْضٍ وَبَلَغْنَا أَجَلَنَا الَّذِي أَجَّلْتَ لَنَا قَالَ النَّارُ مَثْوَاكُمْ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّهُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ حَكِيمٌ عَلِيمٌ (128)

Du'at from KNM had refuted them much but they dont agree
Lets give them some naseeha & manhaj lessons from the Salafi scholars

قال الإمام ربيع المدخلي حفظه الله

"ومن البلاء الآن في هذه الفتن حتى عند بعض السلفيين يتمسكون بقال فلان وقال فلان، ولو كان من يخالفهم معه الدليل والبرهان، وهذا من سلوك طرق أهل الضلال، والمنهج السلفي لا يعترف بهذه الطرق مهما بلغ الإنسان من منزلة، أفتى فتوى أو قال قولاً ليس له دليل فلا يجوز قبول كلامه، نحترمه ونعتذر له و ما شاكل ذلك، لكن كلٌّ يؤخذ من قوله ويرد إلا رسول الله ﷺ، ومن معه الحجة من الله ومن رسوله ﷺ لا يجوز رد قوله"

📚المجموع الرائق - ص 419

🔹قناة فوائد الإمام ربيع بن هادي المدخلي
🔗 http://bit.ly/2gCh5j3

in short 
we say : 

Allah said : 
إِيَّاكَ نَعْبُدُ وَإِيَّاكَ نَسْتَعِينُ (5)
Rasulullah said
إذا استعنت استعن بالله

They say : 
Ibn taymiyah said
Uthaymin said

May Allah guide them & bring them back from the waseelah (path) of Shirk to the path of TAWHEED 
http://backtosalafiyyah.blogspot.com/2016/05/if-only-new-wisdom-jinn-group-in-kerala.html


http://backtosalafiyyah.blogspot.in/2016/04/a-valuable-gift-for-new-wisdom-jinn.html 


📝‏قال الإمام إبن القيم ‏رحمه الله :
‏" أصل كل فتنة إنما
‏ هو من تقديم
‏الرأي على الشرع
‏والهوى على العقل " .
📔 ‏【إغاثة اللهفان【2/
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 The TRUTH is Truth & that we have to Follow what ALLAH said (قال الله) in Quran
&  What Rasulullah said قال رسوله
in Authentic Sunnah...
Not BLIND FOLLOW the ODD Opinions of Salafi scholars however BIG they maybe....
We say ALlah said & Rasulullah said...
They say Albani said & ibn Taymiyah said !


🔊 لم نكلف باتباع فلان وفلان ⛔️

❍ ﻗﺎﻝ شيخنا العلاَّمة صالح الفوزان  - حفظہ الله تعالــﮯ -

" نحن لم نكلف باتباع الناس ، إنما أمرنا باتباع القرآن والسنة ، هذا هو الحق ، ما أمرنا باتباع فلان وفلان ، والله تعالى لم يكلنا إلى آرائنا واجتهاداتنا ، بل أنزل علينا كتابه وأرسل إلينا رسوله ، وإذا رجعنا إلى كتاب الله وسنة رسوله ﷺ زال الشقاق وزال الاختلاف واجتمعت الكلمة " اﻫـ .

• انظر : (شرح رسائل الإمام المجدد - الأصول الستة) (ص - ٢٠) .

 

3 comments:

  1. Asalamu alaikum,
    I thought you are a student of knowledge and I respect and follow your posts regularly. But regarding this, not only Ibn Uthaymeen, Ibn taymiyyah and imam Ahmed, also sheikh Albani has same view. I'm not in your field but I checked out their stances independently and thought you'd know better. The truth is the truth and hiding it is not allowed. Are you telling we deny the salafi scholars? Also what do you have to say about KNM now joining with those who reject multiple saheeh hadeeth and deny sihr altogether?
    Disclaimer: I'm not active member of any group but in this issue I think wisdom is right.

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    1. وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
      You are correct akhi. This guy is hiding behind this jinn issue and this KNM group now has gone to extremes of rejecting sahih hadith and reject sihr and has major issues. I am not a wisdom member but let me tell you wisdom has upheld the true islamic teachings based on the understanding of salaf and the earlier scholars. KNM has now become an aqalani type group. They always tries to divert the topic by bringing up and calling names like "jinnorees" etc. Currently KNM now DOES NOT HOLD true teachings of salafiyya. They are the current day mutazlities. May Allah guide them.

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  2. بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
    wa alaikum as salam wa rahmatullah

    May Allah guide us all to the victorious path of Rasulullah صلى الله عليه و سلم his sahabah رضوان الله عليهم & those who followed them in ihsaan.
    http://backtosalafiyyah.blogspot.in/2016/04/making-dua-to-malak-angel-is-shirk-akbar.html

    I suggest you to read all the posts is this tag "Jinn" to get a better understanding about this subject.

    وفقنا الله و إياكم إلى دعوة التوحيد و جنبنا الله من الشرك و وسائله

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